The Latest Episode of the Gospel According to Francis: Christ “Begs Forgiveness” for His “Escapade”
06 January 2016
For nearly three years, during his daily sermons at Casa Santa Marta, Francis has been providing the congregation, and the world, with his idiosyncratic readings of events in the Gospel. These are usually delivered off-the-cuff because Francis tends to view prepared texts with contempt. As we have seen again and again, Francis evidently believes it is more “pastoral” simply to say whatever he thinks without to regard to the doctrinal implications or the potential for scandal. The results have often been, to put it mildly, stupefying.
Readers will recall such memorable examples of homespun exegesis as the claim that the sinless and immaculate Mary “perhaps” felt tricked by God when she saw Her son on the Cross (“Lies! I was cheated!”), thatChrist merely pretended to be angrywith this disciples (“Jesus does not become angry, but pretends to”), and that Matthew clung to his money when Christ called him (“No, not me! No, this money is mine!”), rather than immediately heeding Our Lord’s call as the Gospel records (Matt. 9:9-13).
There was also this astonishing prayer intention in a sermon on the life of Jesus: “Lord grant us Christian identity,which You had.” To say that Jesus had a “Christian identity,” rather than that Jesus is “the Christ, the Son of the Living God,” as the first Pope recognized (cf. Matthew 16:16), is to suggest that he was not divine but merely a superlative man whose supreme Christian example we should emulate.
Indeed, in the same off-the-cuff sermon Francis opined: “The authority of Jesus—and the authority of the Christian—comes from this ability to understand the things of the Spirit, to speak the language of the Spirit. It is from this anointing of the Holy Spirit…” The implication is that any Christian can be anointed in the unique manner that Jesus was (cf. Acts 10:38), or that Jesus had no authority by virtue of His own divinity but only that of any “anointed” Christian.
However inadvertent it may be, what emerges from such improvisations is an implicit reduction of the God-Man to a Messiah who is merely an exalted creature whose sublime teaching and moral example lead men to God the Father. This is the Enlightenment-bred view of Christ held by the Unitarians and John Locke, who studiously evaded any affirmation of the existence of the triune God or that Christ is the divine second Person of the Holy Trinity.
Francis’s latest improvisation in this regard only heightens the difficulty. Sermonizing on the Finding in the Temple, Francis had this to say:
Instead of returning home with his family, he stayed in Jerusalem, in the Temple, causing great distress to Mary and Joseph who were unable to find him. For this little “escapade”, Jesus probably had to beg forgiveness of his parents. The Gospel doesn’t say this, but I believe that we can presume it.
Any well-catechized child knows that Jesus, far from begging forgiveness, rebuked his parents in a manner that constituted an early revelation of His divinity: “How is it that you sought me? Did you not know, that I must be about my father’s business?” (Luke 2:49) Francis, however, blithely reduces this signal event to a childish escapade for which Jesus had to beg forgiveness. On this view, the very statement “How is it that you sought me? Did you not know, that I must be about my father’s business?” would be the worst sort of insolence and lack of respect for parental authority.
Now, one does not beg forgiveness from another unless one has wrongly offended the other, whereas Jesus, being divine, was incapable of committing a wrong against anyone, much less his own parents. Worse, to say that Jesus had to beg forgiveness for his behavior is to suggest that he had sinned against Mary and Joseph and was thus obliged to ask their pardon.
The question presents itself: Is Francis confused about the divinity of Christ? Does he see Christ as the God-Man whose sacrifice of Himself to the Father, being of infinite value, atoned for all the sins ever committed or to be committed? Or does he hold some lower conception of the Messiah, perhaps without even realizing that he does? I leave it to the commenters to suggest a reasonable explanation of this sermon that is consistent with Christ’s divinity and an orthodox reading of the Gospel.
Source : The Remnant
My Comment : I can not remain silent before this Papal heresy, The Pope who guess for his escapade, Jesus had to apologize to his parents, what is this mess ? this is completly heretic, an open door to hell, I am really worried, how God can apologize ? but where are Cardinals to denounce this heresy, where are you ? woe to you surrenders band !
Update : En route for the one world religion ?
12 January 2016
Scandalous Video: Child Jesus and His Church Humiliated
I am still stunned. I had to watch the video on the prayer intentions of Pope Francis several times; I can assure you that the first time I saw it I thought it was fake, but no, ladies and gentlemen: it is absolutely real.
What message is being transmitted in this video? I think it is very evident and requires little explanation: we are all children of God, and therefore all religions are simply “different” expressions through which children communicate with the Father; each with its form and manner, but all equally valid. The alleged fact that the Father hears us all, regardless of religion, should be a common point of union between all mankind to obtain peace and universal love, sidestepping what separates us. In practice, the message concludes, all religions, as such, become valid means to reach God; point which is staged using the images of the baby Jesus along with Buddha and the like.
one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion (Pius XI)
Is this new? No, we have been putting up with this syncretic-indifference discourse since Vatican II, and it has been expressed in multiple documents and public events (Assisi), but at least from what I can remember, the doctrine underlying all of this has not been laid out as expressively as in this video. Is this Catholic? Let us say it without euphemisms: Absolutely NOT. Surely many will be surprised by this statement, because knowledge of the catechism and Catholic doctrine have fallen to abysmal levels. Here are some reminders:
Let us start with the fact that divine filiation is not achieved except by Baptism ; no one comes to the Father but through Jesus Christ and His one Church, the Catholic Church.
“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (Jn 14:6).
“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters” (Mt 12:30).
“He said to them, ‘Go into the whole world and proclaim the gospel to every creature. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned’” (Mk 16:15-16).
“Whoever hates me also hates my Father” (Jn 15:23).
“If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin; but as it is they have no excuse for their sin” (Jn 15:22).
“You [the Jews] belong to your father the devil and you willingly carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in truth, because there is no truth in him” (Jn 8:44).
“Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not listen, because you do not belong to God”
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven” (Mt 7:21).
Does anyone still have any doubts?
In Mortalium Animos , Pope Pius XI seems to have seen the sad video and warned us in advance about those who
“hold it for certain that men destitute of all religious sense are very rarely to be found; they seem to have founded on that belief a hope that the nations, although they differ among themselves in certain religious matters, will without much difficulty come to agree as brethren in professing certain doctrines, which form as it were a common basis of the spiritual life. For which reason conventions, meetings, and addresses are frequently arranged by these persons, at which a large number of listeners are present, and at which all without distinction are invited to join in the discussion, both infidels of every kind, and Christians, even those who have unhappily fallen away from Christ or who with obstinacy and pertinacity deny His divine nature and mission” (n. 2).
The Holy Father Pius XI continues saying:
Certainly such attempts can nowise be approved by Catholics, founded as they are on that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy, since they all in different ways manifest and signify that sense which is inborn in us all, and by which we are led to God and to the obedient acknowledgment of His rule.” (n. 2).
I wonder, could anyone with half a brain and who has not completely given up reasoning think that what is expressed in this video is not EXACTLY what Pius XI considered “can nowise be approved by Catholics?” It is not my view, nor my own personal consideration; it is the Church herself which has condemned in advance what is here being done and said.
But it does not end here; let us allow Pius XI to continue (emphasis added):
Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which it clearly follows that one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion.” (n. 2).
We are not facing a trivial issue; we are — let us say it without hesitation — facing clear heresy and apostasy. It is absolutely scandalous how the video equates the Child Jesus in the manger with Buddha and other idolatrous fetishes. Pure blasphemy.
Honestly, it seems that we are going downhill without brakes. I sincerely hope that some will decide once and for all to speak very clearly about it. This is very serious and we cannot continue to allow in any way compromise, diplomacy, or fear. We are either with Christ or against Him; there is no in between.
I wish you were either cold or hot. So, because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.” (Rev 3:15-16).
Source : http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/en/articles/item/2264-scandalous-video-child-jesus-and-his-church-humiliated
My Comment : So is this Catholic ? Absolutely not, in fact there is nothing Catholic in this video, on the contrary, probably another step towards the apostasy announced by Our Lady in her Fatima‘s third secret.
Pope said yesterday that Christians and the Catholic Church should ask forgiveness from gays for the way they have treated them. He should have added that the apostle Paul and the Holy Bible writer should ask forgiveness too, for considering homosexuality as an abomination. My friends, the message of Garabandal is more timely today than ever…
Hi Juan, let follow Pope’s trip to Fatima next year for the centenery, he will go or not ? that’s the question, to me this trip will be important.
Probably soon, we will have to apologize being Catholics, I said it years ago now, the worse at the worst time.
Wikipedia extract: “Muslim leaders in Buenos Aires welcomed the news of Bergoglio’s election as pope, noting that he “always showed himself as a friend of the Islamic community”, and a person whose position is “pro-dialogue”. They praised Bergoglio’s close ties with Muslim groups and noted his comments when Pope Benedict’s 2006 Regensburg lecture was interpreted by many as denigrating Islam. According to them, Bergoglio immediately distanced himself from Benedict’s language and said that statements which provoke outrage with Muslims “will serve to destroy in 20 seconds the careful construction of a relationship with Islam that Pope John Paul II built over the last 20 years.” – he spoke against Pope Benedict. The opposite of unity.
I am still working on the Fatima 3rd secret, to finalise my works as some important détails, I should travel to Fatima soon and maybe to Garabandal as well.
According to my researchs, it looks that the Garabandal prophecies are probably the main subject in the Fatima 3rd Secret which could explain why our Lady came back in Garabandal in 1961, as confirmed in the commentary of the world-renowned Fatima theologian, Father Joseph de Ste. Marie regarding an interview given by Cardinal Ratzinger in 1984 about the fatima 3rd Secret :
According to the Prefect (Cardinal Ratzinger) of what was formerly the Holy Office, confirmation of this Message (Fatima 3rd Secret) is to be found, on the one hand, in other apparitions of the Blessed Virgin, and on the other hand, in what is already known of the message of Fatima. Among the other apparitions, we think first of all of La Salette but also of those which have occurred more recently, as, for example, that of Garabandal, which has always been followed with attention and sympathy by the Holy Office.
Father Joseph de Sainte Marie.
More détails soon.
Thank you Aviso. God bless you+. It was not my intention to offend anyone. Please forgive me if I have done so! As to
Prophecies which may point to the 3rd Secret, Our Lady of Good Success through Mariana Jesus de Torres as well Akita of Japan shed more light and are currently unfolding, as we would expect. (As well as Our Lady of La Salette, as you said). Many also consider the final prophecy of St Francis of Assisi to be for our times also. Above all, read Revelations in the Bible, with prayer to the Holy Spirit. There I believe I found references to The Warning, as described and matched in many of the details given in the prophecies of Garabandal (as well as a few others, incl. St. Padre Pio).
ANOTHER PROPHESY ABOUT BERGOGLIO BEING A FALSE POPE…: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsRzo9YhtKQ
Saint John tells us in 1 John 3 : 10 that there are children of God and that there are children of the devil. He said the way to tell the difference is that those who act in righteousness and love their brother are children of God and those who don’t are children of the devil. “In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil. Whosoever is not just, is not of God, nor he that loveth not his brother.”
Holy God, help us now, we are being led by a madman; then I think and say, no, bergolio knows just exactly what he is doing, and in my mind, he appears to be enjoying it- scandalizing, making outrageous statements, heretical!- destroying the faith! Why doesn’t everybody come out against this man? He is a dog for desecrating our beloved and holy Jesus\God! Call all your Bishops and Benedict and complain! I truely never thought I’d see the day a pope would talk like this, bring down the faith. Like Mary said, pray, pray, pray, pray your rosary, for this pope and the world, our families and our selves!mmcmi
Great Post Cassie but let me reassure you, in my opinion the end of this pontificate (valid but the worse at the worst time) is coming soon.
Next year with Obama. Weary of Julian Castro.
Unfortunately you’re right, this pontificate will end very soon (less than 2 years). But, it will come to an end in such a way that it will surprise you, and you’ll finally understand what I meant with my previous messages.
Follow Saint Pio’s advice: “Pray,Hope and Don’t Worry”.
Here are some links to the items I raised may be possible reasons for you to consider that Bergoglio may not be the validly elected pope, as outlined by my previous comment:
1. evidence of collusion by the mafia club which is not lawful and automatically nullifies the election, requiring excommunication of all involved https://fromrome.wordpress.com/category/chronology-of-reports-on-team-bergoglio/ and https://fromrome.wordpress.com/2015/09/30/the-myths-used-to-defend-team-bergoglio-from-udg-81/
2. the fact he was under duress and fear of his life directly beforehand, as testified to by those close to him (which invalidates Benedict’s free decision)
Death threat caused resignation (video link): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXArbF_K4fM
3. the fact that there is an error in the Latin text which again nullifies the document of Benedict’s retirement (whether deliberately or not) and this has still not been rectified by Benedict. http://biblefalseprophet.com/2013/12/30/fr-paul-kramer-pope-benedicts-resignation-canonically-invalid/
4. Considering the number of bishops and cardinals who had a vote or held a position of power or influence who now openly preach against some truths of the Faith, how many Catholics actually voted? You are not truly Catholic if you do not hold all the truths of Faith, go against the teachings of Holy Mother Church and God’s Holy Commandments and preach against them. I am speaking especially of those who promote abortion, adultery, sodomy and/or euthanasia. How many were Freemasons in disguise? http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-original-story-when-jesuit-cardinal.html
5. Lastly here are links to go a large number of articles gathered from a variety of sources which comment on Bergoglio’s errors and heresies. If you clearly do not believe in the Divinity and sinlessness of Jesus Christ and do not believe and promote all the truths of the Catholic Faith, but instead undermine them, then you are not Catholic, let alone the Vicar of Christ. http://biblefalseprophet.com/category/francis-i/errors/
Finally, as my fellow brethren, who I truly believe DO love Our Lord and His Church, I ask you where your first allegiance lies? With Christ or with a man- whether or not he claims to be “The Bishop of Rome”?
donnaliane72, all of the links you posted, comes from a website supporting the “revelations” of The Warning Second Coming, by Mary Carberry. Those are demoniac messages. Here are the definitive proofs:
Click to access outing-of-mary-carberry-010615.pdf
Francis is a Pope who has been validly elected. If you don’t like him, that’s a different matter.
Actually Zasha, in regards to the links, that’s not true. Only two of the links, out of eight, come from the biblical false prophet site. And we are not talking about Mary Carberry – that’s a red herring in this discussion. Are you trying to avoid the question? We are talking about whether the pope was validly elected. There are many different sites which have put forth these questions, none of which have been satisfactorily answered. I’m encouraging you to investigate the issues. I would use a wide range of sources as that is good practice in research. And pray about it. I ask you, can a serial heretic who does not profess the Catholic Faith, be a pope? Is it relevant then whether we ‘like’ him or not? Whether he’s ‘popular’ or not? Our allegiance is to Christ Jesus and the Church He founded. It is the reason we have a Vicar of Christ and not the other way around.My allegiance is to Christ. God bless you +
Donna… I 1000% agree with you… He is not only false, but what he is doing lately means: he is Judas of our times.
Dear donnaliane, do you even know that the blog I reported was managed by some of the same administrators of “The Warning Second Coming” website?
Dear donnaliane, do you know that the blog was already ready to be put online, and they did so the VERY SAME day of the election of Pope Francis, so they were already ready to attack him?
Dear donnaliane, do you find all of this to be rather suspicious, to say the least? (do a whois and a web.archive.org, and you’ll see what I mean – old URL was biblicalfalseprophet.com).
Moreover, that stupid blog is providing FALSE interpretations of the messages given to Our Lady in Anguera. They’re giving their own false interpretations, misleading the readers.
They publish at least 100 posts for month only to attack Pope Francis. Do you think that someone like that could really come from God???
How come that SAINT NICOLAS smashed cardinal Arius´face in when he uttered similar heresy like this pope that Christ the Son isn´t equal to God the Father?
He was imprisoned but the Jesus with his Mother themselves set him free with thanks for his zeal and fervour!!He was SAINT just because he DID this and not because He spoke in politically correct terms and “accompanied” the sinners do hell!!
One can often verbally ask forgiveness for something without it actually implying that one has sinned (which of course Jesus never did and could never do). Don’t you ever say to someone, “Sorry, what was that?” (When you didn’t hear him)? Or, if you hurt someone without intending to, perhaps by tripping over someone’s foot (in other words, you did not sin whatsoever), don’t you beg his forgiveness even though you did not sin?
No doubt Our Lord, even at 12 years old, was Himself very pained by His mother’s pain, and wished to “apologize” for it in a way that did not imply that He sinned.
If you are worried about people taking something the Pope says in a heretical way, how about addressing that interpretation, instead of attacking the Vicar of Christ?
Again, much ado over nothing. The only result of rants like this is to do great damage to the Body of Christ — the Church.
Pope Francis makes dangerous statements. But he is the validly elected pope. Your advice is noteworthy and correct.
Stefan, that is, of course, if he is a validly elected pope. If he is not so, then Benedict remains our pope, and the 4th, as Conchita saw. I’m sure you are thinking “how could I entertain the possibility that he is not validly elected?” There is actual a few different grounds upon which the validity of Bergoglio’s election comes into question, such as evidence of collusion by the mafia club which is not lawful and automatically nullifies the election, requiring excommunication of all involved, the fact he was under duress and fear of his life directly beforehand, as testified to by those close to him (which invalidates Benedict’s free decision) and the fact that there is an error in the Latin text which again nullifies the document of Benedict’s retirement (whether deliberately or not) and this has still not been rectified by Benedict. Considering the number of bishops and cardinals who had a vote or held a position of power or influence who now openly preach against some truths of the Faith, how many Catholics actually voted? How many were Freemasons in disguise? We knew a time would come but everyone is inclined to think “not in our time! Not in our age! Not our ‘validly elected’ pope!” Well it was going to happen some time wasn’t it? Read the prophecies of Our Lady of La Salette, Akita of Japan and Mariana de Torres. Better still read Revelations with the help
of the Holy Spirit. The Abomination of Desolation will sit in the Holy Temple. That has not occurred yet but it IS going to happen. It is easy for people to say “not in our time” and not read”the signs of the times”.
I must correct, Conchita said there were 3 popes until the “end of the time” era. 4 popes, if one of them (4) is not counted (=3).
Don’t most people accept that refers to Pope John Paul 1 because he died within a week? So Benedict is the third pope (and remains)?
He is not validly elected pope, because of conspiracy to make him pope… what brakes the Cannon Law… But, it is less important now, because HIS HERESIES ARE EXCOMMUNICATING HIM… anyway. So, no matter what HE IS A FALSE POPE…
Defending the indefensible, changing heresy into something banal, a common trick for defenders of this pontificate but who can still listen to you, you lead us to ruin and when you will wake up it will be too late, get out of my sight, I can not bear you anymore.
By your fruits I know you.
The fruits below :
Thank you for drawing a few of his comments together. You brought a new one to light for me- “about Christ identifying as Christian”.
I actually found another insult recently when reading the Vatican site. I think it is his December 15th sermon where he criticises the Our Father- The Lord’s Prayer!
I had read once that Conchita once in a conversation about a vision referring to the number of popes before the end, had said that in the vision ‘there was another’ but that Our Lady “didn’t count him” ie. as a pope. I assume you know of this?
Conchita spoke of 4 popes and one of them will not be counted. But Pope Francis is the 5th Pope!
Being 5-th one, means… HE IS NOT A REAL POPE… He is false… Are you doubting math skill of Mother Mary? We are stupid, if we do not believe HEAVENS… Mother Mary gave us this number to alarm us about what is going on in the church with a pope number five…
The Garabandal Prophecy of the Popes is an important warning given to us by our Lady of Mount Carmel, the number of Popes before the end of times indicated in Garabandal are probably related to the NOVISSIMI (last events at the end of Time) indicated in the Fatima 3rd Secret and confirmed by Pope Benedict, a new article about it will be online soon.
Regarding comments, I ask you to respect each other, thank you.