John Salza versus Fr. Kramer ?

During my short Holiday and little rest, I am informed of a new “words war” now between 2 of the closest Fatima Priest friends, John Salza versus Father Paul Kramer, having myself a great Respect for both of them, many of their thoughts and works are quoted on this Blog, below my opinion  :

Gruner Salza

This is sad, worthless and as we are saying in French ZERO, ça ne vaut rien, sucks ! but what is the Problem ? really nothing important at least to me, the main disagreement is about Pope Francis as below and in short :

For Salza : Until proven otherwise, Pope Francis election is valid, he is probably heretic but still the legitimate Pope

For Fr. Kramer : Pope Francis election is invalid as Pope Benedict was pushed to resign, he is also heretic de facto cannot be the legitimate Pope

And Between them the last Book from John Salza/Siscoe about Sedevacantism, the book in short rightly refutes the Sedevacantism idea with strong theological arguments, I did not read it myself but had some insights via few friends, they looks happy with the book, any way, in memory of Father Gruner to whom both had the greatest Respect, even if I have no illusion, I would like to tell them STOP and ENOUGH !, thank you.


My Comment : Just few words but this is my opinion only, in the Garabandal context, I know that Father Kramer is open to our Lady of Mount Carmel, Garabandal is even quoted in his great and famous book “the devil’s final battle”, to my knowledge not Salza (regarding Garabandal and among our famous Traditionalists, to my knowledge we have : Salza-Ferrara-Matt versus Vennari-Fathers Gruner and Kramer, we have quite the same situation with the SSPX main leaders as Bishop Fellay versus Bishop Williamson and so on) and this is not a problem but to me and about the current Pope (only), I share Father Kramer’s position, as I said several times online and about the Fatima 3rd Secret for which all of them are great workers, you cannot have the full picture of our Lady’s main Prophecy without Garabandal and to me this explains mainly the current disagreement, end of the story.







9 thoughts on “John Salza versus Fr. Kramer ?

    • Hi Raymond, No unfortunately my Friend, Salza is wrong and Bishop Fellay as well, I am currently trying to meet Bishop Fellay by all the possible way using my own contact in France, in the same time I will publish my 3rd Fatima Secret online soon.

      By the way, it’s not Saint Stanislas as I already told you, thanks.

      • Pope Francis is a true Pope, there is no doubt about it. What makes a true Pope is that his election is canonically valid, doesn´t care if he is heretic or not, he will never make an ex cathedra error. Pope Benedict has said many times that his resignation is valid. Pope Benedict was pretending to resign since 2010,he told that in a interview. We cannot acuse him of liar. I have debated a time ago with father Kramer, he makes to many contradictions with his statements, he was trying hard to fit Pope Francis with the Prophecy of Saint Francis of Assisi, that was his main failure.

        Merlin (7th century): There will come a German Anti-Pope. Italy and Germany will be sorely troubled. A French King will restore the true Pope.

        St. Ignatius of Santhià (Capuchin) (1686-1770)
        During these calamities the Pope shall die. Through the death of the Supreme Pontiff the Church will be reduced to the most painful anarchy, because from three hostile powers three popes will be contemporaneously elected: one Italian, another German, the third Greek, by force of arms, shall be placed on the throne.

  1. Priests v Priests, Bishops v Bishops, Cardinals v Cardinals.

    Akita Message mentions about the division among the priests…

    It was on Saturday, October 13, the anniversary day of the last Apparition of the Virgin Mary to the three children of Fatima, that Mary gave to Sister Agnes Her third Message, the most important and serious one:

    “If men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son.

    Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the Bishops and the priests.

    “The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see Cardinals opposing Cardinals, Bishops against other Bishops.

    The priests who venerate Me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres (other priests). Churches and altars will be sacked. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises, and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.

    “The demon will be especially implacable against the souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of My sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will no longer be pardon for them.

    “…Pray very much the prayers of the Rosary. I alone am able to still save you from the calamities which approach. Those who place their confidence in Me will be saved.”

  2. Hi friends. A few days ago I was chatting with some people in Garabandal and I heard something really interesting, which confirms some of the prophetic aspects of these apparitions. One of Conchita’s cousins (Lucia’s brother) said that one night he was accompanying Conchita and her mother Aniceta in one of her nightly strolls, with no other witnesses. He heard her conversation with Our Lady and she was saying: “No please, how can anyone wish to kill the Pope; no, it cannot be… ”
    Was it the assessination attempt of John Paul II? Was it the first part of the 3rd secret of Fatima?
    This is your turn Aviso….

    • Hi Juan, you have good contact in Garabandal but did any Pope has been officially killed since the 60’s ? if you have the good answer then you will probably debunk the Garabandal Prophecy of the Popes, I let you to meditate this question, until then you stay with me as I will probably need you soon.

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