When I disclosed for the first time the photographs of the original letter of Padre Pio to Conchita González, the main seer of the apparitions of Our Lady at Garabandal, I asked for some help to continue with the investigation of the connection between this letter received in Garabandal by the girl dated March 3, 1962, and Padre Pio, since the letter from the Capuchin convent of San Giovanni Rotondo had no signature. As I commented it was pretty logical that Padre Pio did not sign the letter. First, the apparitions were in course and the Church had not issued any statement on them. And second, Padre Pio in March 1962 had still numerous restrictions from the Holy See and his superiors, and it was not convenient for his reputation to write such a letter. These restrictions were finally raised by Pope Paul VI in the year 1963, a year later.
In this continuation of the previous article I would like to update the state of my research. I am still waiting for comments about the letter and the Fatima Rosary (included in the envelope) from some people in San Giovanni Rotondo. In the mean time, I would like to publish a letter from Des Grant, an Irish Newspaper Editor, which is of great help. Thanks to him I have retaken my intention of having Padre Pio’s letter analyzed by a forensic calligrapher in order to add new certainties to the authorship of the letter by Padre Pio. I know that the most we can get will be to certify that the letter came from the convent and was written with a convent’s machine and may be by the same person who wrote the letters signed by Padre Pio. Therefore, this task is only for a scientific purpose or pursuit, as you can see, since there is not any logical doubt that the letter did not come from Padre Pio. Who else used to see and talk to Our Lady in San Giovanni in 1962?
Here is Des Grant letter:
“I am a newspaper editor by profession and I have only recently become acquainted with the apparitions of Garabandal, and I am even more intrigued as to how they are not considered more well known.
My research into the letters are not a work of authoritative investigative science. However, it is clear to even an novice like me that typeface on the keys of both the typewriters are the same.
I will attach both the letters, a genuine Padre Pio letter signed by him, and the Garabandal letter, and then I’ll attach close up photos of individual letters from each letter that clearly show the ‘font’ letter shapes are quite distinct and unique. It shows that they are from the same ‘type’ of machine, and possibly therefore, the same actual typewriter.
There is a specialist science for this called ‘Forensic document examination’ and it warrants a closer look by an expert. This can determine the make and even the model of the typewriter and help connect the two letters authoritatively. For now we can only say they look very similar to the point it could be argued it is the same make of typewriter, and thus possibly the very same machine.
Each typewriter due to slight alterations in the alignment of the heads, has its own ‘signature’ or ‘fingerprint’ so to say. As such each document can be traced back to the typewriter it was written on.
I hope this has been of some benefit to you.
I have inclosed a list of manufacturers that extends to close to 200 makers, however, I am proposing that perhaps a dozen or so makers dominated the market, but that is a guess based on the size of the companies involved.
Taken in the context of ‘additional evidence’ to be added to what is already there, it strengthens the case of identifying Padre Pio as the author as the letter appears to have been written on ‘AN’ identical type/model of typewriter Padre Pio used.”
Des Grant has provided a typed letter signed by Padre Pio in 1965 to compare it with the letter to the girls from Garabandal. He has amplified some individual letters of both letters to compare. Anyone can do it as well and will see that the typewriter in both letters is of the same make as has the same typeface. The typewriter is most surely an Olivetti machine, and the font is Olivetti type 2 as it matches perfectly with that font which can be found over the Internet. Photographs of all this is included here.
As a curiosity we can observe a finding in the two letters that suggests that the used machine is the same and probably the person who writes them. As you can see in both letters it is used to put the number “1” the uppercase letter “i” when the logic is to use the “1” of the keyboard. Either the machine had the “1” key broken or the person who wrote had the tendency to use the letter “i” as a number. Both situations would connect the two documents more closely according to the laws of probabilities.
I want to thank again Des Grant for his help and encourage others to provide new information if they find any.
María de las Nieves García wrote to Padre Pio to Garabandal. Padre Pio is said to have answered her on January 19, 1968. That would be an interesting comparative document.
Pio’s endorsement of Garabandal is hugely important in that the author of the letter claimed that Our Lady revealed to him that the apparitions were for real. If that letter is proven to by Pio, as it almost certainly is, then it advances Garabandal hugely, even if not in terms of church recognition, it would bring the message to more people. The two strongest mystical mysteries of the 20th century were Padre Pio and Garabandal. Pio was in danger of being cast aside himself, much like Garabandal has been. If the two can be linked more strongly it helps. What is interesting about Pio and his belief in Garabandal is that he believed it from the beginning, to his death. His meeting with Conchita is the most interesting. Pio had the highest spiritual powers, if Conchita was a fake, she wouldn’t have lasted 10 seconds with him. He could like inside people. He took the crucifix our Lady kissed in his hands, pressed it into the stigmata, placed her hand over it, and then enveloped her hand with his. He was drawing on it, he was asking the question, If she or that cross had wrong energy Pio would have picked up on it, I am convinced. Very little of the encounter is shared by either party. I think his taking of her hand was to feel the connectivity. IF anyone was faking, the last person on the planet you would want to be presented to is Fr Pio, ten minutes after he celebrated mass. We will never know what Pio thought, but he died not long after and sent personal items to her. I wish we knew more.
I would also be interested in the translation of the letter from Padre Pio to the Garabanal seers to English. Would you be able to post an English translation? I tried to figure out the original Italian from the image but it is very difficult to see all of the letters properly and don’t want to take any guesses unless absolutely necessary. Thank you, this is a very interesting post.
At nine o’clock this morning the Blessed Virgin Mary told me about you, oh dear girls, about your visions and she told me to say to you:
“Oh blessed girls of San Sebastian de Garabandal, I promise that I will be with you until the end of the centuries, and you will be with me until the end of the world, and then united with me in the glory of paradise.”
Together with this I am sending you a copy of the Holy Rosary of Fatima, which the Blessed Virgin has ordered me to send you. The Blessed Virgin dictated this rosary, and she wants it to be propagated for the salvation of sinners and the preservation of humanity from the terrible punishments, with which the good God is threatening.
I give you a recommendation: pray and make others pray, because the world is on the road to perdition.
They do not believe in you or in your conversations with the white Lady, but they will believe when it is too late.
March 3, 1962
What exactly do people interpret, “with you to the end of the centuries” and “with me to the end of the world” to mean? I would really value people’s insights.
Hi Concerned. Some thoughts, ‘end of the centuries’ and ‘end of the world’ are the same moment in time, thereafter comes the ‘eternal now.’ Scripture teaches that final judgement comes at the end of the world, thereafter some will rise to everlasting life, others to everlasting damnation. Since time in the ‘eternal realm does not have an impact and by implication does not exist (hence the phrase ‘eternal now’), my theology teacher would say, everyone born since time began will rise to judgement at the very same moment. In death we have no experience of the passage of time, so it would seem that we enter the final judgement the moment we died, except if we are firstly to be purified in Purgatory, (the realm of Purgatory is more difficult to understand, but clearly time does exist in that place). Therefore, that which we/Seers experience in this life to be persons already in Heaven or Hell (as in an apparition, for example Fr Ramon), is a soul coming to our/Seers present from our/Seers future.
I don’t think St. Padre Pio was alluding to the timing of events i.e. that the end of centuries/world would to take place in Conchita’s lifetime on Earth. I would interpret him stating a fact, that he would be with them always until the end of time and he being in their company means they would by implication be in his until they died, which for them, at that very moment, is also the end of the world. I would suggest also, he was being poetic as mystics often are when trying to convey the mysteries that earthly language is far too inept to describe.
Thank you , Pete. I read it in that sort of way, but was interested if there was any other more specific sort of interpretation. It is Our Lady’s company, I think you mean.
God Bless you.
Ah yes your right I mean Our Lady’s company
Thank you Juan for the reminder, I count on both of you with Pete to moderate my Blog with no mercy for anyone insulting the Vicar of Christ, by the way my Friends I am on the way back online as promised slowly but surely, we keep in touch, thank you.
Dear Antonio, calling Pope Benedict XVI, probably the present vicar of Christ, “the beast” as you say here is an awful insult not only to the eyes of the great majority of Catholics but to God’s eyes. I think Pete accepted to publish it because he didn’t understand your words. I would not have allowed it and think it should be removed from this blog where statements like yours are not welcome for most of us.
I agree, Juan. The post hould be cancelled at the earliest.
What does the letter say? And why was it’s authorship disputed? Both apparitions and St Padre Pio were in conflict with Vatican sources. What is the goal here? Thank you and thank the gentleman who endorses this letter as legitimate. God bless all who uphold this amazing 5 years, and work to spread the messages.